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Dodge Unveils Next-Gen Sprint Cup Car in Vegas
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Posted On: 3/12/2012 9:14AM
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Following the precedent set by Ford with its hot new NASCAR Fusion, Dodge unveiled a muscular Charger that'll be running Sprint Cup during the 2013 season. Dodge enjoys the distinction of being the only Cup car that's based on an actual RWD V8 civilian version, but the reveal also comes at a problematic time for the manufacturer: with Penske Racing having just announced that it'll be leaving Dodge for Ford, the only Charger in the field is run by independent Robby Gordon. SRT Motorsports chief Ralph Giles says all options are on the table, including pulling Dodge from the series altogether. What do you think, does Dodge have a future in NASCAR? After seeing this new Charger, I kind of hope so. More info at NASCAR.com, pics via Autoblog.

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Avatar By: iroczguy15
3/12/2012 9:20 AM

heck give me one ill race it!

 
Avatar By: fortyfordsedan
3/12/2012 9:40 AM

I would love to see Dodge stay in Nascar but only if they can be competitive. All the elite teams, Hendrick, Roush, RCR and Gibbs seem like they will not change and most of the secondary teams buy engines or chassis from one of those programs. I don't see them making the cut unless they can infuse a lot of money into someone like RPM and give them the resources to be championship contenders.

 
Avatar By: MrAMC1
3/12/2012 9:56 AM

How about make all those Toyota guys switch to these new Dodges!

 
Avatar By: ___nes___
3/12/2012 10:28 AM

2 door charger should exist!

 
Avatar By: Team61RaceCars
3/12/2012 5:13 PM

AND it actually LOOKS like the 'public' version ! YEEEEAAY ! As far as Dodge pulling out of NASCAR, that's what you get for taking government money, there are LOTS of big strings attached......IMHO

 
Avatar By: SouthernGuy8503
3/12/2012 9:22 PM

I love it. Can't wait to see if GM stays with Impala or goes to the Camaro and then see what it looks like. Also even though the bodies are brand new, they will fit on the current COT chassis'. Team61RaceCars - That has nothing to do with it, Dodge just doesn't back the teams like they should like the other 3 manufacturers do. There's a reason there's only 1 major team and 1 small team that was Dodge that is now switching to something else. Penske was basically doing it without factory backing, then Robby Gordon gets his stuff from Penske.

 
Avatar By: retroman
3/12/2012 11:04 PM

What Mopar needs right now is another Superbird moment... Yes, I understand that aero cars are completely illegal, but you get the point. When they ran those cars, all the guys who switched to Ford switched back...

 
Avatar By: mrjasonlyrics
3/13/2012 5:03 AM

I'd stick with the regular body style.

 
Avatar By: Pimped-up
3/13/2012 5:27 AM

Whoever built this, probably forgot about the concepts of aerodynamics, what a waste...

 
Avatar By: 90b2xlt
3/13/2012 5:51 AM

Oh how I wish they would produce a 2 door Charger. I can't stand the grocery getter look of four doors on a sports car...

 
Avatar By: Tuff_Bird
3/13/2012 5:55 AM

Glad to see the cars are starting to resemble the street version. The charger is the only car that is close to the actuall car. Ever hear of a RWD V8 camry fusion or impala?

 
Avatar By: noonrock
3/13/2012 8:21 AM

As long as the feds keep buying GM stock and infusing tax money into it's existence, there will be a plethora of Chevs.

 
Avatar By: MADMAX333
3/13/2012 9:03 AM

Who really cares? Nascar sucks anyway. It has totally sucked since they stopped using real cars, which was the only reason to watch in the first place. I understand it's a challenge to drive in circles(have watched the numerous videos that proclaim "but it's really hard"), but nobody really cares cause it's so bloody boring. Not to mention the uber-violent retards that try to kill other drivers because they got passed or nudged. Really just a bunch of overpaid, egotistical, violent and extremely childish idiots. No respect for these "racers". In fact, the "fans" that go to watch aren't even watching, they are just there to get shitfaced.

 
Avatar By: SouthernGuy8503
3/13/2012 9:14 AM

MADMAX - Well I'm not going to comment on your whole ignorant comment. But, I will comment on the part where you said the fans just go there to get shitfaced. Funny since you've never been to a race. Even funnier since I'm a huge NASCAR fan and I don't even drink and I never have even though I'm 26.

 
Avatar By: Grmripo
3/13/2012 10:12 AM

Car is sick but prob to little to late

 
Avatar By: 84-Ponyguy
3/13/2012 11:31 AM

That Dodge is a nice-looking car... especially in "Race Red." It would make a nice-looking car to drive on the street... call it the "Challenger." Oh, wait... I would really like to see NASCAR return to what the acronym stands for. "Back in the day" the interest was in the cars and what they could/would do. Today, the story is simply an extension of Hollywood movie stars... who is doing what with whose girl friend/wife/daughter, et cetera. They are all racing exactly the same vehicles, built to NASCAR specifications, not Chrysler, General Motors or Ford's specifications. If NASCAR came up with a racing series using vehicles that are readily available at your local dealer, using only factory-production parts, they'd have a race that I could get interested in... And spectators at NASCAR races are really not much different from spectators at NBA, NFL or MLB games... a large number of them are there to get looped while watching some kind of sport.

 
Avatar By: carfreak73
3/13/2012 11:53 AM

So that's what a 2 door Charger looks like. Now if Dodge would only build a street version.

 
Avatar By: car_menu
3/13/2012 1:17 PM

awesome! finally a nascar that looks like the production version (like the old days), this will do wonders for its image in the showroom and on the streets

 
Avatar By: Enfini7
3/13/2012 1:33 PM

Souther Guy, You like NASCAR and thats great. But you fail to understand how we got to the current state of domination by certain teams. GM is entirely US backed. And they seem to support thier teams quite well. Is that fair? Dodge has no reason to support a sport that simply does not make it welcome. When Dodge did support thier teams in the old days NASCRAP changed the rules and took thier dominace away. I used to watch when the 43 was red and blue and had no problem winning race after race with the best car and motor package. Who wnats to watch a sport that restricts and controls all aspects of the sport? That Daytona 500 this year was a joke. Sad indeed. All those cars unable to pass or move on the outside lane. It was the worst race yet. Penske has lost my respect for trying to become another Rousch team. What NASCAR needs to do is limit teams to 2 cars max. Limit support to even dollar amounts on all teams. Hendrick sells chevies and runs them. Make the manufactuors run what the sell. Toyota does make a V8 4 door car ...its called the Lexus ISF. Ford nope, GM nope, Dodge yup! Sadly we who seen what it was....can only be bitter about what it now is. Oh well Speed channel does show the odd Euro touring car event to keep real motorsport fans happy once and a while.

 
Avatar By: darkrider01
3/13/2012 1:53 PM

Dodge unveils unbelievably hot new NASCAR Charger! This email headline from CarDomain brought me to this. Really? "Unbelievably hot"?!?! More like believably NOT. Eh, I'm a hater. If only there were something "stock car" about NASCAR.

 
Avatar By: Tazman171
3/13/2012 2:34 PM

@ Enfini7 - Don't forget about Speeds coverage of Australian Touring Cars. Real factory built bodies, race modded, rear wheel drive V8 cars that even have a working dash and doors! Based on cars by Ford and Holden (GM Australia) going at it with 650 hp!, and you can drive them on Monday due to them being sold at dealerships as real RWD, V8 powered cars. They love to push each other around to so it's a lot of fun to watch. @ Pimped-up - As for aero, it may perform like a golf ball, as air gets "stuck" in the depressionsat the front more air can't be pushed in so it smoothly rolls off creating much less turbulance and there by less drag. I beleive the real car has a drag coefficient of .29, good BTW, and NASCAR bodies are always lower than stock. I'm sure that the "aero" is fully up to NASCAR standards as that plays a huge part in many of the races now. I remember when they used to race early 80's Grand Nationals, real cars and no "aero' compared to todays wind tunnel designed NASCAR cars.

 
Avatar By: DaveIndy
3/13/2012 2:41 PM

90b2xlt: What do you mean "Grocery Getter"?? Don't you mean "Grandmas Car"?? If GM can make a 2-door car, so can everyone else. Worse yet? Almost ALL new cars have Automatics!! Automakers think the younger crowd wants a sporty car, but 4-doors just don't cut it. The big change was when everyone wanted a Luxury Sedan with that European look. YUCK!! If Dodge wants to compete, lose 2 doors.

 
Avatar By: Pearl_SpyderGT
3/13/2012 3:38 PM

About Time ! ! ! Refreshing to the Charger as a 2DR ! They should just make the Charger 2DR from now on.

 
Avatar By: SouthernGuy8503
3/13/2012 3:59 PM

Tazman - I like Australian V8, but see those racing series' that use real car bodies and all, guess what they're all road courses. In NASCAR it's mainly ovals which they carry a lot more speed for a lot longer time. They go 3 and 4 wide when they can. So they do a lot more passing and take more risk in my opinion on ovals. Which all that means more tore up bodies. It's not like they use fiberglass panels or anything, it's all sheetmetal. It's easier to work with and also easier to do a quick repair.

 
Avatar By: SouthernGuy8503
3/13/2012 4:09 PM

Enfini7 - GM has always backed teams in NASCAR so the ballout BS has nothing to do with that. Also Ford and Toyota back their teams just as much as GM does, especially Ford. Dodge was the only one that didn't back the teams as well, so they slowly lost team after team so really it's nobody's fault but their own. The thing is, I could care less if someone doesn't like NASCAR, it's like anything else, it's not for everyone. But I will defend it when someone makes an ignorant comment like "MADMAX", which it seems like he simply didn't like it, which is fine, but then he wanted to pull all this BS out of his ass to make it sound like it's stupid and isn't worth even having. Also the reason they started to make more rules is to try to make the competition more equal where the only difference is the driver, crew and car's setup along with the engine configuration. For the first time in NASCAR's history, I believe, the year ended with 2 drivers in a tie in points after 36 races so the champion was won by the amount of wins. Lastly, NASCAR isn't nearly as bad as stick and ball sports when it comes to giving fines and all. You here all the time about someone getting a fine ect in the NFL over something stupid. Plus NASCAR is it's own sanctioning body, so it can easily change how something is after hearing from teams, drivers and fans that it should be dome different. A lot of the recent changes have been because of drivers and fans speaking their mind.

 
Avatar By: Comrick317
3/13/2012 4:33 PM

Make the Charger a damn 2-door, really. Seriously. Do it now.

 
Avatar By: 77cordobaguy
3/13/2012 5:13 PM

I know lots of folks are going to think I'm just an old turd that doesn't even have an opinion? However,I'm old enough to remember when NASCAR used to use real Detroit made production cars that were based the same cars you could buy at your local Ford,Chevrolet or Chrysler-Plymouth dealership. Heavily modified,but never the less a stock car.Not these tube framed uniform glorified go carts covered with a skin that looks like a real heh heh(car).

 
Avatar By: OutskirtsCustoms
3/13/2012 5:50 PM

Doesn't look very aerodynamic.

 
Avatar By: SouthernGuy8503
3/13/2012 6:38 PM

77cordobaguy - I know a lot miss those days, but you and the others need to realize it's for safety. You can only make a factory car but so safe until you can't mod it enough to make it as safe as you need. The speeds got faster so the cars had to get safer. The current cars are as safe as they've been, a driver can flip multiple times or hit a wall without the safer barrier at 150 mph and walk away without even a bruise. I honestly don't think anybody could take a factory car and make it as safe as the current cars are, if they could it would end up costing more than building a tube chassis car mainly from the man hours it would take. I don't see people complain about NHRA and other drag racing series or monster trucks going to an all tube chassis. At least NASCAR uses actual sheetmetal that doesn't tear off like a paper bag. Same for all 3 and other steel tube chassis cars, the speeds got faster so they had to make the cars safer. I'm only 26 and started watching in the early to mid 90s so I didn't get to see when they raced the actual cars, but I've seen enough videos and all to know why people miss it. I'd rather them drive the safer cars than to have someone die every year just because some fans miss when the actual cars raced.

 
Avatar By: DevilDogg87
3/13/2012 7:12 PM

MadMax is right. NASCAR these days is crap. I would rather watch a race from the 60s or 70s than what it is today. NASCAR has gotten so far away from what it was originally suppose to be. All thats out on that track now is cars with the same damn bodies(just painted different) and more restrictions than one could shake a stick at. Dodge has done so much in the past few years to make their cars be back on top again. The only car Ford has to compete with is the very sharp looking Mustang.(I hate Fords but I give credit where its due). As far as it goes for Chitty, all their cars are cheap pieces of crap, including the Camaro(Which is sad considering I own 2 Gens of Camaros). Way to go Mopar on taking it back

 
Avatar By: TheSnakeOiler
3/13/2012 7:17 PM

Now THAT"S what a real production Charger should look like; not this 4dr atrocity!

 
Avatar By: MARCOSLBC
3/13/2012 8:23 PM

colors of mcdonalds give the number 8

 
Avatar By: 05081969
3/13/2012 8:40 PM

Ralph Giles needs to go...... asap.

 
Avatar By: FordFanX
3/14/2012 1:06 PM

Dat camber.

 
Avatar By: Enfini7
3/14/2012 1:16 PM

SouthernGuy8503 Your young and your points are valid. I also agree that just hating NASCAR is no reason to post crap. But for me ( and I mean me ) I really have a tough time watching these cookie cutter cars running around the track like they do. It was so much diffirent. Imagine a Superbird racing a Talladega Ford, and a a real two door chevy running an actual big block 427! All running on a stock frame with simple changes making the car not only recogniziable, but buyable! It is sad sad sad now. Even in the 80's they still looked close and yet they could run at Daytona at 212mph! Cale Yarbrough was the first I think to go well past 200mph. Even with Dale and Bill Ellliot racing head to head in the 80's it was fun. The restrictor plate kills the super speedways. This may be the reason that Dodge is not putting that money into the programs. I just watched the Gator Nationals and seen a ton of Mopar money running on the 1/4 mile. You also have to admit that NASCAR has taken a serious hit to its fan base. Actually even they admit that. I wanted them to at least experiment with the Nationwide series and try to take it back to the old rules and configuration and see just how popular it is. See if these manufacturers would build a couple of RWD v8 Toyotas and Fords and see what the fan reaction would be. Really how hard can it be? The NationWide and Sprint series are mirrors of each other now. Go retro and see who shows up to see a 5.8 litre V8 in a Camry run against a Hemi Charger ( or challenger ). We brought the pony cars back...let's run them again. These things can exist in a modern world. I myself drive a 92 mazda Rx7 that runs a 1.3l twin turbo. It is far from the cars we speak about, but I just love cars. I just do not like a series run by large corporations and massive teams. The sport has been washed out. And you something....a whole hell of a lot of others feel the same. DROP THE PLATE! Limit the team size run what you sell

 
Avatar By: SouthernGuy8503
3/14/2012 5:26 PM

Enfini7 - Ya they admitted to the fan lose, but that was from them handing out fines like the NFL and having little rules like F1. Sure it would be bad ass to see actual production cars racing, but there's other series' for that. Like I said, the reason they need tube chassis cars is because of safety. The restrictor plates at the superspeedway is also for safety. When I say safety, it's for both drivers and the fans. You'd be surprised what a NASCAR race car could do on a superspeedway unrestricted. Think about it, you can't go faster in the corners if teh car doesn't have enough downforce. At a superspeedway more downforce means more drag so that slows you down. So do you want a bunch of wings on the cars like in open wheel? I'm sure you don't and nobody else would. Hell most NASCAR fans including myself bitched about the wings they used in Cup from 08 to the middle of 2010. So it's enough a simple restrictor plate to go between the carb or throttle body and the intake manifold, or put a shit load of wings on them for more downforce to keep up with the speed. If not, they would lose grip and fly into the wall at over 200 mph. Also the only thing that sucked back in those days (well from the videos I've seen) was when they ran production cars and engines, the winner could win by a few laps, not a few thousandths like today. To be honest, I wouldn't want to see that kind of racing where 1 brand would have a 50-100 HP advantage. Richard Petty couldn't keep up with the rest on the big tracks until Dodge came out with the HEMI, so that was the car. Taking nothing at all away form "the King", but I bet he would have under 150 wins if they never came out with the HEMI. Plus I don't think they had to mess with car setups. Now a days 1 minor little change in tire pressure in one tire (even a 1/2 lb) can change the car a lot. So even though the cars are very similar, they're still not because of the engines that have different HP and TQ curves and the car setups. Also you have no idea how much money it would cost the teams to all of a sudden switch to factory cars. It cost enough to just switch cars to a new chassis and body in the Nationwide series last year and in Cup in 2008. Also Cup and Nationwide aren't mirrors, close but not. Cup has 200 more HP and I believe the overall dimensions are different like the wheelbase and width which both make a good difference. Also Cup has EFI now, but Nationwide and Trucks still run carbs. They also have different rules. By the way, NASCAR has more small teams trying to make it who go week by week like most blue collar people have to go paycheck to paycheck than they have huge multi car teams.

 
Avatar By: JoeCool6972
3/14/2012 5:47 PM

It looks great, but if the Nascar version is a two door... then Dodge needs to make a two door production model.

 
Avatar By: mopar_pheen
3/15/2012 5:33 AM

Quit bitching about it being a damn 4-door! It's not going to change and I bet half the people didn't know or care about the Charger until they came back out with it in '06. Just drop it. As for the NASCAR version, looks great, they spent an unreal amount of time in the wind tunnel, so as much as it looks like a brick it should still go just fine.

 
Avatar By: dwight916
3/15/2012 7:04 AM

I agree with madmax nascar is pointless and no one cares about the damn sport. It has become boring as hell ever since the cars look exactly the same. I would rather the vehicles be slower but be actual production cars. I hate dodge but at least they are moving in the right direction. Every motorsport is becoming about aerodynamics and speed. What happened to the good ole days when a person could own the same vehicle raced in Nascar and NHRA. Well, ranting and raving about it won't do anything but I wish it would.

 
Avatar By: 77cordobaguy
3/15/2012 2:29 PM

Enfini7 I agree totally with your commentary. Thanks

 
Avatar By: mopar_pheen
3/15/2012 10:43 PM

Just a side note so everyone knows, NHRA has more than top fuel dragsters and funny cars, they do have production cars that are highly modified, so please quit trying to use that as an excuse in your rants.

 
Avatar By: JDM_type_r
3/21/2012 9:51 PM

It's so very sad that this is the only cool NASCAR-you don't want to see a toyota or chev FWD entered into this sport. America should bring the almighty Holden (GM) Commodore and Ford Falcon from Australia-true rwd everyday muscle cars. Big American V8's with a platform that can support them on the road. NASCAR is a series that clothes a uniform chassis on an everyday vehicle. Thing is you want your vehicle to feel like a NASCAR not like a grocery getter-just sayin

 

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