Well you can't blame the PS3 itself, just the game makers. Has nothing to do with the PS3 system itself. The graphics is of the game, not that it's the best you can get with a PS3 since I've had racing games that had the same or better graphics over 2 years ago. I used to have a PS3 and sold it only because I needed the money, I never had 1 problem with it. It was a lot better than my friend's 360 in pretty much every way. Only upside to having a 360 for awhile was that there were more games for it than the PS3, but kind of makes sense because the 360 was out for awhile longer. But now there's really no upside to having a 360 in my opinion, it boils down to if you're an Xbox person or Playstation person. I also plan on buying another PS3 when I'm able to, all I played on it were racing games. I'm more into the street racing kind of thing (even though I don't like when people do it for real) and GTA kind of games, I guess it's a little more of a challenge to race a few cars on city street with traffic than on a closed track. Something to back up my point is look at the "NASCAR 2011 The Game" trailer, it looks a hell of a lot better with better graphics, movement and so on while I bet it only took a couple of years to make from start to finish... http://nascarthegame.com/ ... I also had the same game for my PS3 that my friend with the 360 had and the graphics were the exact same so it's the game itself, not the system that determines actual graphics. Once they meet a systems top performance and can't get anything better out of it then they'll come out with a new system.

I gotta agree with Mike on this one. If you go on YouTube and watch a video of any FM3 game play, you'll get a ton of guys talking crap, saying "FM3 graphics suck! Just wait until GT5 comes out!" for like 2 years! And now that the game's out, there's not even a big difference. I'm an avid Gran Turismo fan, having played the game from GT2 through GT4. But last year, the PS2 was no longer sufficient and I had to decide between the PS3 or the 360. I chose the 360 for the sole basis that I loved playing FM3 on my brother's 360. Frankly, I got tired of waiting. And although I'd love to play the new GT5, I'm more than satisfied with FM3 on my 360. Who doesn't love the realism in that game. No haterism going on here, just wish the guys at Gran Turismo would've got their ish together sooner!

Honestly, the Top Gear test track is the only thing I think GT5 has on Forza 3. Seeing as how Top Gear let Forza put a few things in with their "ultimate edition," that might change in the near future.

Only thing better from my point of view is the graphics of the premium cars. Like the Zonda, the carbon fiber weave effect is a little better. In Forza to see the weave you have to zoom in almost 100% on photomode to see it. But other than that looks dead even, and lets not even talk about the generic engine sounds of GT5.

Eh, im a PS3 type of guy myself. Ive played the Forza series before and like them all. Ive just grown up playing Gran Turismo so im kind of biased. with anything there are noticeable differences but i will ride or die with Gran Turismo until it reverts back to galaga type graphics. and plus the PS3 free network is a win.

GRAN TURISMO. Check.

I have all the Gran Turismo series of games, and Forza 1

That's nice how it only posted the first ten words of my comment. >:-(

I have all the GT series of games as well as Forza 1

Ok, now it's pissing me off. I'm about to take a pen and just f'n write it on my screen!

Scew it, I give up.

I have all the GT series of games as well as Forza 1

Can anyone tell me why on just this one page my post refuses to show in it's entirety?

no clue shmak